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A Sunderland flying boat at its mooring.
It is presumed that this in the Cromarty Firth and perhaps details in the background can confirm this?
Picture Added on 13 May 2004.
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This appears to be a "civilianised" Sunderland with the CAA registration G-AGHV. You can get minimal info from the CAA site. However, they do not give prior details for delisted aircraft. This appears to be a Sunderland Mk III and may have had the serial number JM722. If anyone knows how to get the CAA history files, you will find out who owned it.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 01 June 2005.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 01 June 2005.
I cannot remember titles, but have seen publications, aimed at flight enthusiasts, on history of flying boat activity in the Firth. Perhaps contacting military flight enthusiasts could yield further info.
Added by Ronald Stewart on 28 September 2005.
Added by Ronald Stewart on 28 September 2005.
Can anyone from Invergordon or elsewhere remember the Lerwick seaplane similar to the Sunderland but only having two engines?
Added by Douglas Will on 16 January 2006.
Added by Douglas Will on 16 January 2006.
Here are a few links to sites with information about the Lerwick. The first one is a modeller's site but has a note about Lerwicks flying from Oban and a list of good book references. The other two have pictures.
http://www.seawings.co.uk/lerwickarticle.htm
http://www.beehivehockey.com/photo_45lerwick.htm
http://avia.russian.ee/air/england/saunders_lerwick.html
Added by Brian MacLeod on 17 January 2006.
http://www.seawings.co.uk/lerwickarticle.htm
http://www.beehivehockey.com/photo_45lerwick.htm
http://avia.russian.ee/air/england/saunders_lerwick.html
Added by Brian MacLeod on 17 January 2006.
Hi Ron - poke in the dark a bit - my Grandparents met up here in the war - my Grandfather Clifford Marshall used to fly Sunderlands out of the Firth. I know my Grandmother's side of the family (Salvesen) bought one after the war and use to fly to Risobanken in Norway - could be the same machine?
Added by Ali Wilkerson on 20 June 2007.
Added by Ali Wilkerson on 20 June 2007.
Can anyone remember the Sunderland which crashed at the back of Saltburn? This seaplane seemed to have caught fire whilst taking off and to avoid killing civilians it took off and flew over Saltburn and crashed right next to the railway line causing some damage to the line. One of the engines was found almost half a mile from the wreckage. Needless to say there were no survivors.
Added by Doug Will on 21 June 2007.
Added by Doug Will on 21 June 2007.
I lived at Kilmuir Easter in the 50s and heard about the bombing of the oil tanks but don't remember hearing about the Saltburn crash. I do remember reading somewhere about a Sunderland that sank at its mooring on the Cromarty Firth in a storm during the war. The skeleton crew on board all died and I believe may have been burried locally (Alness?). Anyone know more?
Added by Brian MacLeod on 25 June 2007.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 25 June 2007.
Brian, most of the aircrew who were buried locally usually went to Rosskeen Cemetery. Can’t remember a Sunderland sinking at its mooring but can remember that 5 Catalinas went down - somebody had left the blister canopies open and the storm did the rest. They were all taken ashore by the ferry slip and pulled up onto the piece of ground near the Ship Inn where they were cut up and taken away. This was the easiest place to beach these planes. They used to locate them and then one of the moorings ships would raise them and drop them off between the ferry slip and first pier (the RAF pier as it was known). They would then have been either floated up the beach or dragged up ready for cutting up.
Added by Doug Will on 26 June 2007.
Added by Doug Will on 26 June 2007.
I'm am doubtless being really blonde here - wasn't it a seaplane that went down with the then Kings Brothers on board - around here - or was it near Golspie?
Aye, Ali
Added by Ali Wilkerson on 26 June 2007.
Aye, Ali
Added by Ali Wilkerson on 26 June 2007.
Thanks Doug, I may take a look next time I'm in Easter Ross. My recollection of the description is that a new airman was posted to a Sunderland squadron and his first duty was burial escort or something similar for these people that drowned. A couple of weeks later he was sent to the squadron detachment in the isles (Orkney or Shetland) and within days had to perform the same storm duty. He was "a little corncerned" to say the least.
On Ali's question: Do you mean the Duke of Kent? He was killed in a Sunderland crash at Dunbeath in 1942.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 27 June 2007.
On Ali's question: Do you mean the Duke of Kent? He was killed in a Sunderland crash at Dunbeath in 1942.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 27 June 2007.
Ali, it was Prince George, The Duke of Kent, Sunderland went down in Caithness.
Added by Harry O'Neill on 27 June 2007.
Added by Harry O'Neill on 27 June 2007.
Thanks Brian and Harry - why does this appear to have been swept under the carpet a bit?
Aye, Ali
Added by Ali on 28 June 2007.
Aye, Ali
Added by Ali on 28 June 2007.
Ali, that's an interesting question. The Duke's papers are still under embargo and some critical documents are missing (the Sunderland flight plan for one).
The Duke was subject to some speculation surrounding the affair of Rudolph Hess. All sorts of fanciful theories have been put forward on this front. There has also been speculation that the Duke was at the controls and may have caused the accident due to inexperience. The biggest mystery is why the incredibly experienced crew broke standard procedure to fly over land, then descended in cloud over high ground.
Whatever the truth, there seems to have been some attempt to avoid tarnishing his reputation and that of the wider Royal family. In 2007, it is hard to remember how tightly-held socially-negative information was kept in those days. The whole panoply of State surrounding the Royal family was very rigid, formal and stifling - probably the reason for the abdication in 1937.
Personally, I doubt that there is any great scandal out there to be discovered. The biggest scandal may well have been that there was some kind of cover-up or suppression of details due to the perception of officials after the crash. If something like this happened, the people responsible may have been around for many decades in positions of power and may have acted to keep the details under wraps.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 29 June 2007.
The Duke was subject to some speculation surrounding the affair of Rudolph Hess. All sorts of fanciful theories have been put forward on this front. There has also been speculation that the Duke was at the controls and may have caused the accident due to inexperience. The biggest mystery is why the incredibly experienced crew broke standard procedure to fly over land, then descended in cloud over high ground.
Whatever the truth, there seems to have been some attempt to avoid tarnishing his reputation and that of the wider Royal family. In 2007, it is hard to remember how tightly-held socially-negative information was kept in those days. The whole panoply of State surrounding the Royal family was very rigid, formal and stifling - probably the reason for the abdication in 1937.
Personally, I doubt that there is any great scandal out there to be discovered. The biggest scandal may well have been that there was some kind of cover-up or suppression of details due to the perception of officials after the crash. If something like this happened, the people responsible may have been around for many decades in positions of power and may have acted to keep the details under wraps.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 29 June 2007.
Ali, my understanding is that it was figured to have been a plot, or some sort of top secret mission. The Sunderland did take off from the Cromarty Firth...but you are correct about being swept under the carpet. You would think that some sort of memorial or record would have been kept...
Added by Harry O'Neill on 30 June 2007.
Added by Harry O'Neill on 30 June 2007.
Hi everyone - with reference to the crashed/sunk Sunderland - during the war, my Dad, Johnny Lennox retrieved a float from the lost aircraft and hid it in some bushes somewhere around Rosskeen. After the war when I was about 5 or 6 he retrieved it - cut the top off - fitted gunwales and a Johnson Seahorse outboard and we used it as a run-about/fishing boat from about 1950 to 1954.
In Australia several "civilianized" Sunderlands were used up until the 1980s. They were called "Sandringhams" - they were used on scheduled services from Rose Bay in Sydney Harbour out to various Pacific islands like Lord Howe.
Added by Doug Lennox on 30 June 2007.
In Australia several "civilianized" Sunderlands were used up until the 1980s. They were called "Sandringhams" - they were used on scheduled services from Rose Bay in Sydney Harbour out to various Pacific islands like Lord Howe.
Added by Doug Lennox on 30 June 2007.
Ali, it was not hushed up but during war-time things like the loss of life are not broadcast as they may affect the morale of the civilian populace.
Added by Doug Will on 30 June 2007.
Added by Doug Will on 30 June 2007.
There was more than one Sunderland crash in the Cromarty Firth - Lerwick and Catalina seaplanes also crashed or sunk. Other aeroplanes pulled up by the ferry slip included a Botha or Blenheim aircraft which was discovered whilst they were looking for another crashed plane; also a twin-winged seaplane Stranraer or London type was landed.
Added by Doug Will on 30 June 2007.
Added by Doug Will on 30 June 2007.
Doug, I don't remember you but I definitely remember the float conversion, or another one, although I doubt there being another. The one I remember was always around the West (1st) Pier...
Added by Harry O'Neill on 30 June 2007.
Added by Harry O'Neill on 30 June 2007.
Cheers Brian and Harry - I understand he was trying to get to Carbisdale Castle - or had stayed there, as King Olaf of Norway spent a lot of time there during the war. Again that is family supposition - and Grandparents still keep schtum about it.
Added by Ali on 02 July 2007.
Added by Ali on 02 July 2007.
Doug, I remember some wreckage being pointed out to me as being the crashed Blenheim. This was late 50s and at very low tide. I seem to remember that it was off Barbaraville on the Kildary side of the village about straight out from the last house (Gilfinnan's?). I was a little kid so distance did not mean much but suspect it was about a half mile out. I'm not sure if it was the whole aircraft of just some material left after the removal. Anyway, it looked like a plane to a wee kid.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 03 July 2007.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 03 July 2007.
Ali, the Duke of Kent crash occurred on a hush-hush trip to Iceland for some kind of meeting with Americans. Sunderlands were supposed to fly over water wherever possible so they were not supposed to cut off the tip of Scotland. Why they did this is part of the mystery. The missing flight plan compounds this mystery.
King Olaf and Norwegian forces do have lots of connections with the area. Mansfield House in Tain was at different times home to the Norwegians and some Polish forces. My grandmother's brother (Lt. Col. Andrew Sutherland - Seaforth Highlanders) was seconded from HQ Scottish Command to help reorganise parts of the Norwegian Army. I think they were at Muir-of-Ord at that time (1943?). He was honoured for his work at some fancy ceremony in London after the war that was hosted by King Olaf.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 03 July 2007.
King Olaf and Norwegian forces do have lots of connections with the area. Mansfield House in Tain was at different times home to the Norwegians and some Polish forces. My grandmother's brother (Lt. Col. Andrew Sutherland - Seaforth Highlanders) was seconded from HQ Scottish Command to help reorganise parts of the Norwegian Army. I think they were at Muir-of-Ord at that time (1943?). He was honoured for his work at some fancy ceremony in London after the war that was hosted by King Olaf.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 03 July 2007.
Ok - might have to try and get a bottle of gin into the old Grandmother - see if she will open up a bit. I know King Olaf and my Great Grandfather were firm friends after the war as they had used Carbisdale as a base. It was always a theory in the Salvesen clan that the Duke stayed there - alas - time fuddles the mind of the old - those who are still sharp will not talk about it.
Added by Ali on 04 July 2007.
Added by Ali on 04 July 2007.
Brian the wrecked plane I was talking about was during the war. The wreckage you are talking about was most probably one of the Barracuda dive bombers which crashed into each other while practising in that area.
Added by Doug Will on 04 July 2007.
Added by Doug Will on 04 July 2007.
Hi Brian, the wreckage, still visible from Barbaraville, was (according to my Dad who was in the RAF there during the war) a "Barracuda" out of Fearn - see picture #622 on this site.
Added by Doug Lennox on 05 July 2007.
Added by Doug Lennox on 05 July 2007.
Mansfield House used to have lions on its gateposts but they were used for target practice by the Norwegians and are long gone! Dunbeath Heritage Centre has lots of information on the Duke of Kent crash and usually runs a guided walk to the crash site on the anniversary - mid August from memory.
Added by Estelle Quick on 05 July 2007.
Added by Estelle Quick on 05 July 2007.
Hi Harry, I also remember the float in question..many a time I sailed about in it ..Tin Lizzie ..it was named as I recall..it also lay at the wee slipway at the old swimming pool for a time..all us "young boys" sailed in the Tin Lizzie at one time or another.
Added by Duncan Murray on 05 July 2007.
Added by Duncan Murray on 05 July 2007.
Hi Doug, how do I get to photograph 622? The search feature does not help.
(The link in Doug Lennox's comment should have been 'picture', not 'photograph' - sorry about that, but Brian is right, there is no photo 622 - Site Admin.)
Added by Brian MacLeod on 06 July 2007.
(The link in Doug Lennox's comment should have been 'picture', not 'photograph' - sorry about that, but Brian is right, there is no photo 622 - Site Admin.)
Added by Brian MacLeod on 06 July 2007.
Hi Ali, I mentioned Mansfield House to add information. I did not intend to give the impression that King Olaf never visited or used Carbsdale. Hope I did not put you off the scent.
However, the crash definitely occurred on the mission to Iceland.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 06 July 2007.
However, the crash definitely occurred on the mission to Iceland.
Added by Brian MacLeod on 06 July 2007.
Picture 622 of the barracuda is on the Cromarty Image Library.
Added by Alan Whiteford on 06 July 2007.
Added by Alan Whiteford on 06 July 2007.
Apologies - the picture is at www.black-isle.info/cromarty/imagelibrary/picture/number622.asp
Added by Doug Lennox on 06 July 2007.
Added by Doug Lennox on 06 July 2007.
No no, not at all Harry - all good banter and it's interesting
Aye, Good weekend, Ali.
Added by Ali on 06 July 2007.
Aye, Good weekend, Ali.
Added by Ali on 06 July 2007.
That is correct there Duncan, it was the Tin Lizzy and yes we all had a turn about in her. There was also a small rowboat with a square bow around the same time and it was called "The Tot", could get two in it in a squeeze....
Added by Harry O'Neill on 06 July 2007.
Added by Harry O'Neill on 06 July 2007.
Estelle, is there nothing along the sea-shore at Invergordon, recognising that there used to be a Sunderland base there? It would be a nice feature for the town?
Added by Harry O'Neill on 06 July 2007.
Added by Harry O'Neill on 06 July 2007.
Harry, the only thing "along the seashore at Invergordon" now is barbed wire fencing 3 metres high. Grrr!!!!
Added by R A Stewart on 07 July 2007.
Added by R A Stewart on 07 July 2007.
Harry, I believe the Jetty at Alness, Dalmore - and any remaining associated structures were the seaplane base - can't see a lot with Google earth from Oz.
Added by Doug Lennox on 08 July 2007.
Added by Doug Lennox on 08 July 2007.
Oop sorry Harry - it was for Brian. I must have been a blonde morning that day!
Added by Ali on 09 July 2007.
Added by Ali on 09 July 2007.
The Jetty at Dalmore (Yankee Pier) was used for the loading of mines for the Northern Barage and elsewhere. Sunderlands, although moored in the Dalmore Bay area, were not actually based at the Jetty, moorings were along the Black Isle shore from Balblair towards the west, plus others on the Invergordon side. There is a fine picture in the Publication "Sunderland at War" of the Dalmore Distillery area with some Sunderlands.
Added by Duncan Murray on 09 July 2007.
Added by Duncan Murray on 09 July 2007.
The full story of the 812 Squadron Barracuda crash, in late 1944, is told on the Cromarty Image Library.
www.black-isle.info/cromarty/imagelibrary/picture/number622.asp?st=barracuda
My Father wrote about it in his memiors of his service with the FAA during WW2.
"At Fearn I flew one night as Air Radio in the TAG's position when we were carrying out Night Torpedo Bombing. We had lost two aircraft in the previous night's exercise. The pilot was a South African and, I was told, had taken a drink before flying. We were fine until we were landing and instead of cutting the engine at less than 6 feet[sea landing on a heaving deck called for dropping the last bit and catching the tail hook on the Arrester wires] he did so at maybe 16 feet. Our undercarriage went and the radio at knee level broke loose and caught my left knee and my face bounced down on the Gun. I wasn't bad enough to be in Sick Bay but I was lame for almost a year and I re-injured the kneecap slipping on the metal foot rest as I climbed into a Barracuda on the rolling flight deck. It has given me trouble off and on for periods throughout my life.
I was friendly with a TAG, a Somerset farmers son, named Gee, who was a champion beer drinker and a very prosaic character. I could hardly finish a pint without feeling overfull. One evening in Fearn I asked him down to the canteen for a pint and he said" No Jock me tickets up". I told him not to be silly, for with all the losses we had many of the young men were twitchy and depressed.
Next day I was held on the ground in a Barracuda with a U/S radio, when most of the squadron were in the air carrying out close flying. I got the receiver working on the Squadron's operational band and heard the CO shouting on the other 5 planes to close up. They were flying at 1000 feet above the Cromarty Firth when the higher craft struck an air pocket and came down on the lower Barra. The two planes fell like stones to the sea. The crew of the bottom aircraft including my TAG friend were killed instantly. The top plane struck the sea and the Observer, Sub Lieutenant Sagg, a classical Cambridge scholar, staggered out on the sinking wing, inflated his Mae West and fell into the water.
He was picked up said to be black and blue and badly injured and we never saw him again. We presumed that he had died later for we buried the other men at Invergordon. I rediscovered their graves next to the lair for my brother in law in the 80's.
In 1997 812 held a reunion and I was walking across to the hotel to join the others and passed a car with a man emerging. He said " From your walk are you ex-812. Can I join you My name is Sagg". I almost said - you're dead but shook hands and we chatted. He had recovered unfit for flying and, as he had studied Hebrew ended up as an interpreter with the Services in Palestine before returning to Cambridge where he had just retired as a Don."
Added by Calum Davidson on 20 December 2003.
Added by Calum Davidson on 10 August 2007.
www.black-isle.info/cromarty/imagelibrary/picture/number622.asp?st=barracuda
My Father wrote about it in his memiors of his service with the FAA during WW2.
"At Fearn I flew one night as Air Radio in the TAG's position when we were carrying out Night Torpedo Bombing. We had lost two aircraft in the previous night's exercise. The pilot was a South African and, I was told, had taken a drink before flying. We were fine until we were landing and instead of cutting the engine at less than 6 feet[sea landing on a heaving deck called for dropping the last bit and catching the tail hook on the Arrester wires] he did so at maybe 16 feet. Our undercarriage went and the radio at knee level broke loose and caught my left knee and my face bounced down on the Gun. I wasn't bad enough to be in Sick Bay but I was lame for almost a year and I re-injured the kneecap slipping on the metal foot rest as I climbed into a Barracuda on the rolling flight deck. It has given me trouble off and on for periods throughout my life.
I was friendly with a TAG, a Somerset farmers son, named Gee, who was a champion beer drinker and a very prosaic character. I could hardly finish a pint without feeling overfull. One evening in Fearn I asked him down to the canteen for a pint and he said" No Jock me tickets up". I told him not to be silly, for with all the losses we had many of the young men were twitchy and depressed.
Next day I was held on the ground in a Barracuda with a U/S radio, when most of the squadron were in the air carrying out close flying. I got the receiver working on the Squadron's operational band and heard the CO shouting on the other 5 planes to close up. They were flying at 1000 feet above the Cromarty Firth when the higher craft struck an air pocket and came down on the lower Barra. The two planes fell like stones to the sea. The crew of the bottom aircraft including my TAG friend were killed instantly. The top plane struck the sea and the Observer, Sub Lieutenant Sagg, a classical Cambridge scholar, staggered out on the sinking wing, inflated his Mae West and fell into the water.
He was picked up said to be black and blue and badly injured and we never saw him again. We presumed that he had died later for we buried the other men at Invergordon. I rediscovered their graves next to the lair for my brother in law in the 80's.
In 1997 812 held a reunion and I was walking across to the hotel to join the others and passed a car with a man emerging. He said " From your walk are you ex-812. Can I join you My name is Sagg". I almost said - you're dead but shook hands and we chatted. He had recovered unfit for flying and, as he had studied Hebrew ended up as an interpreter with the Services in Palestine before returning to Cambridge where he had just retired as a Don."
Added by Calum Davidson on 20 December 2003.
Added by Calum Davidson on 10 August 2007.
Doug (Will) and others, I have probably got this all wrong but I'm sure that there are others who will correct me. A short Sunderland flying boat went down on the 15th August 1944. All crew men were Canadian except for two British and one Australian. All were buried in a massed grave at Rosskeen Churchyard.
Added by Rosalie Samaroo on 18 August 2007.
Added by Rosalie Samaroo on 18 August 2007.
Rosalie, not sure if the flying boat you mention was the one that crashed near the railway line at the back of Saltburn. I do know that all the crew were killed. The date I can't remember but maybe somebody else has some info on it or could do some research on the crash.
Added by Doug Will on 19 August 2007.
Added by Doug Will on 19 August 2007.
Greetings from Canada, I just happened across this site and noted several references to the Sunderland crash near Saltburn. It happened early on November 26, 1944 shortly after Sunderland DD851 left on a North Sea U-boat patrol. A connecting rod on the starboard inner engine broke soon after take-off when they were over the land. The aircraft caught fire, the engine fell off, and the aircraft crashed on the rail line two miles north-east of the railway station at Invergordon, as they were unable to reach the Firth and land on the water. There was no time to jettison fuel or the six 250 pound depth charges so there was a large explosion and fire which woke up many of the local residents including airmen at RAF Alness. The Canadian crew of eleven men is buried in the Air Force section of Stonefall Cemetery at Harrogate, Yorkshire.
My father was the tail gunner. My wife and I visited Alness and Invergordon in May 2006 and were very impressed with the hospitality of the local people, particular the Rosses who volunteer at the Heritage Centre at Alness. They have a great little museum with two rooms dedicated to RAF Alness and there is a fine memorial which was unveiled in 2001 to "All Who Served Here" at Alness Point. The scotch at the Dalmore Distillery was excellent.
Added by David Kinton on 22 August 2007.
My father was the tail gunner. My wife and I visited Alness and Invergordon in May 2006 and were very impressed with the hospitality of the local people, particular the Rosses who volunteer at the Heritage Centre at Alness. They have a great little museum with two rooms dedicated to RAF Alness and there is a fine memorial which was unveiled in 2001 to "All Who Served Here" at Alness Point. The scotch at the Dalmore Distillery was excellent.
Added by David Kinton on 22 August 2007.
Any information available on a Sunderland Flying Boat that crashed at Clare Island, Co Mayo Ireland in the mid 1940s with the loss of twelve Canadian crew?
Added by Jack O 'Grady on 05 February 2008.
Added by Jack O 'Grady on 05 February 2008.
The following information may be of interest to Jack O'Grady:
JOE O'LOUGHALIN'S Roll of Honour for the crew members who died in crashes from 1941 to 1944. List of SUNDERLAND flying boats based at RAF Castle Archdale during World War 11 that crashed with loss of life. "localdial.com/users/airforce/Joe-R-o-H-ca.html"
He records many Sunderland crashes but eleven RCAF crew members killed in the crash off Clare Island. The basic information he provides is:
"25th May 1943. DD846. 422 Squadron based at Oban, Scotland. It was instructed to terminate this particular patrol at Castle Archdale. Crashed off Clare Island, Co. Mayo. Four Crew members are buried in Irvinestown Cemetery. The crew members killed were: E.F. Paige, F/O J.W. Clarke, Sgt. W.G. Hoops, Sgt. R.B. Bryers, Sgt. D.A. O'Dowd, Sgt. D.H. Richardson, Sgt. R. Sherwood, Sgt.J. Rowe, Sgt. J. Hird, Sgt. D. Purvis and W/O. W.R. Thompson.
Two other websites may also be of interest.
George Smith’s Roll of Honour: "localdial.com/users/airforce/R-o-H.html"
Foreign Aircraft Landings in Ireland 1939 - 1946
"csn.ul.ie/~dan/war/crashes.htm"
Added by David Kinton on 06 February 2008.
JOE O'LOUGHALIN'S Roll of Honour for the crew members who died in crashes from 1941 to 1944. List of SUNDERLAND flying boats based at RAF Castle Archdale during World War 11 that crashed with loss of life. "localdial.com/users/airforce/Joe-R-o-H-ca.html"
He records many Sunderland crashes but eleven RCAF crew members killed in the crash off Clare Island. The basic information he provides is:
"25th May 1943. DD846. 422 Squadron based at Oban, Scotland. It was instructed to terminate this particular patrol at Castle Archdale. Crashed off Clare Island, Co. Mayo. Four Crew members are buried in Irvinestown Cemetery. The crew members killed were: E.F. Paige, F/O J.W. Clarke, Sgt. W.G. Hoops, Sgt. R.B. Bryers, Sgt. D.A. O'Dowd, Sgt. D.H. Richardson, Sgt. R. Sherwood, Sgt.J. Rowe, Sgt. J. Hird, Sgt. D. Purvis and W/O. W.R. Thompson.
Two other websites may also be of interest.
George Smith’s Roll of Honour: "localdial.com/users/airforce/R-o-H.html"
Foreign Aircraft Landings in Ireland 1939 - 1946
"csn.ul.ie/~dan/war/crashes.htm"
Added by David Kinton on 06 February 2008.
From my knowledge of the area, virually certain this is Invergordon. I had visited the area many times as I was a search and rescue navigator in the Fleet Air Arm, 1970 to 1983. I am writing a book regards the Suspect Operations of Mi6 since 1905 through to 1953, after Stalins death.
I have uncovered some startling information regards a 228 crash off Tiree in September 1942, in which Fred Nancarrow died, after investigating the crash of W4026 at Eagles Nest in August of the same year.
Added by Jim Evans on 08 April 2008.
I have uncovered some startling information regards a 228 crash off Tiree in September 1942, in which Fred Nancarrow died, after investigating the crash of W4026 at Eagles Nest in August of the same year.
Added by Jim Evans on 08 April 2008.
Hello there Jack O'Grady, I'm the owner of the website: Foreign Aircraft Landings in Ireland 1939 - 1946 (www.skynet.ie/~dan/war/crashes.htm)
If you drop me an email I have some various records that might be of interest to you. Five of the eleven men on board were Canadian, the rest were RAF men, though the Squadron was RCAF.
Do drop a line to me to see what you want to learn about this crew.
Added by Dennis Burke on 17 April 2008.
If you drop me an email I have some various records that might be of interest to you. Five of the eleven men on board were Canadian, the rest were RAF men, though the Squadron was RCAF.
Do drop a line to me to see what you want to learn about this crew.
Added by Dennis Burke on 17 April 2008.
Added by Bill Geddes on 24 December 2004.